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10 SJGC professors cut from classroom posts

Published: Friday, April 10, 2009

Updated: Friday, April 10, 2009 01:04

The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools made a recommendation the week of March 29 not to renew the contracts of any professors within the FAMU School of Journalism & Graphic Communication who do not have a master's degree.

SJGC Dean James Hawkins said he understands a master's degree is a university requirement to be a professor, but in the journalism and graphics industries, experience is equivalent to a degree.

Hawkins said SJGC hires professors using a two-track policy. Professors can be hired on either the tenure track, which requires a lecturer to have a master's or doctorate, or the professional track, which calls for professors to have at least five years experience.      

"We have recommendations from the SACS team, and they have identified 10 people whose credentials didn't meet the requirements: four full-time professors and six adjuncts," Hawkins said.

He added that all 10 professors have years of experience in their field, which is enough to teach.     

Keith Miles, who manages FAMU's radio station, WANM 90.5 FM; Ernest Jones, who manages FAMU TV-20 and Ron James, graphic designer for the university, are three out of the four full-time professors who will stay employed in their Administrative and Professional positions, but will no longer be allowed to teach.

However James has already submitted his resignation.

William Jiles, the fourth full-time professor cited by SACS, said he is affected most by the decision. Jiles has been an employee of the school since January 2006. He was officially notified Tuesday of SACS' recommendation.

"I agree with the dean," Jiles said. "My years of experience surpass a master's degree. Peter Jennings only had a high school diploma and his ability to perform was never questioned."

Jiles, who has more than 20 years of television experience, said much of his focus this semester was the Advance Television News course, which produces a live 30-minute newscast for FAMU TV-20.

Donnitra Gilbert, 22, a fourth-year broadcast student from Ft. Lauderdale, said she feels the recommendation made by SACS was unfair.

"It's taking away some of the core professors in the School of Journalism," she said.  "The program won't be the same without them. In the field of broadcast it's more experience rather then education."

Gilbert, who is a lead anchor for FAMU TV-20, said she also feels the newscast will not survive without Jiles.

However, Jasmine Frank, a third year public relations student from Dayton, Ohio, takes a different view.  The school needs to address the issue in any way SACS sees fit, she said.

"This issue needs to be fixed," said Frank, 21. "With the school having issues like this, it makes me rethink if I want to graduate from here. Future employers may question my work ethic. The school I attended is a reflection of me."

Frank said it is unacceptable to have professors who do not meet the requirements teaching classes.

"They knew before being hired that they didn't meet the requirements," Frank said. "Whoever hired them, it's their fault."

Terrance Ward, 23, a graduate of the broadcast sequence, said he thinks the program is going to suffer in the long run.

"Our field of work is more based off of experience and that is what has helped the professors relate to the students," Ward said.

Ward said he has been enlightened by instructions from professors such as Harold Uzell, who is an adjunct graphics professor that does not meet the master's requirement.

"I really enjoyed his class, and the fact that he has his own graphic design company is very influential," Ward said. Hawkins said he is working diligently to correct the problem before the December SACS review.

"We are going to require employees in the A&P positions to earn their master's in three years," Hawkins said.

Hawkins also said no official actions have been made regarding Jiles' employment for the upcoming school year.

"I am extremely pleased with the faculty and really appreciative of the contributions they have made to the program," Hawkins said. "In each case, each professor has brought professional experience that we felt students should practice."

Hawkins is scheduled to update the faculty at the regular monthly meeting today. Provost Cynthia Hughes-Harris will meet SJGC faculty members to discuss the SACS recommendations on Tuesday.
 

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18 comments

Administration
Sat Apr 18 2009 16:09
Just for clrification, FAMU is NOT on probation. FAMU is currently FULLY accredited.
Tanya Caldwell
Sun Apr 12 2009 16:34
I agree with Sidney. I've had a great journalism career, thanks to the passion and years of experience that SJGC professors bring to the classrooms. I don't want to see them go, but I also understand that the University must maintain SACS accreditation.

Here's an idea: Let's keep these professionals on as non-teachers until they complete their master's degrees. That way, the program keeps its accreditation, long-time employees keep a job and students continue to benefit from the expertise of these proven, experienced journalists. And, in just two short years, this won't even be an issue, because every professor that the school hires will have at least a master's degree before they step in the classroom.

Sidney Wright IV
Sun Apr 12 2009 11:10
I'm slightly on the fence about this issue. On one hand, I think the University has to do what it has to do to get off of probation, but on the other hand, there's no blanket solution for every problem. It's clear that SACS hasn't looked at the type of education J School students have received before determining that our professors aren't sufficient at preparing us for the real world.

Our program is exceptional. Our students win awards--lots of them. Not just in HBCU competitions, but against all universities. In the last few years our students and graduates have beaten established programs in state and regional competitions. Our graduates have been student journalists of the year, been accepted into national media management programs and been placed at some of the largest and best media companies in the world. Just in the last couple of weeks our students have racked up 14 awards. The walls of J School are covered with them. To be blunt, we're on our...you know what.

Fresh out of college J School students have been picked up by ESPN, Gannett, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, and plenty of top ranked newspapers just to name a few. I'm willing to bet that very few of those employers asked what the applicants GPA was. My bosses didn't even confirm that I had a college degree. It was all based off of the experience I had. That's the business we work in.

The SJGC is definitely one of the best programs FAMU has. Regardless of how the administration decides to handle this, hopefully they realize that and don't sink our program.

Sidney Wright IV
Sun Apr 12 2009 11:08
I'm slightly on the fence about this issue. On one hand, I think the University has to do what it has to do to get off of probation, but on the other hand, there's no blanket solution for every problem. It's clear that SACS hasn't looked at the type of education J School students have received before determining that our professors aren't sufficient at preparing us for the real world.

Our program is exceptional. Our students win awards--lots of them. Not just in HBCU competitions, but against all universities. In the last few years our students and graduates have beaten established programs in state and regional competitions. Our graduates have been student journalists of the year, been accepted into national media management programs and been placed at some of the largest and best media companies in the world. Just in the last couple of weeks our students have racked up 14 awards. The walls of J School are covered with them. To be blunt, we're on our...you know what.

Fresh out of college J School students have been picked up by ESPN, Gannett, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, and plenty of top ranked newspapers just to name a few. I'm willing to bet that very few of those employers asked what the applicants GPA was. My bosses didn't even confirm that I had a college degree. It was all based off of the experience I had. That's the business we work in.

The SJGC is definitely one of the best programs FAMU has. Regardless of how the administration decides to handle this, hopefully they realize that and don't sink our program.

Justin Jerome
Sat Apr 11 2009 20:46
Eventhough I am not a journalism student and I do not know any of the professors who are involved in this, I don't agree that they should be fired. I believe that since they were already on the payroll before this ruling even came up and got them involved they should be exempt. Just like when there was a certain month and year for students graduating after a month and year from high school, they were required to take a standardized test before moving on to college. For those students who graduated before that certain time period they were exempt. I feel the same way in this case. If they weren't required to have this qualification before being hired then they should be exempt. We shouldn't be cutting people off just because we made a mistake and now the only easy way out is to just fire them. Most of us need our jobs especially in a time like this when money is real tight and bills are going unpaid. So I disagree with this ruling. I suggest that the next professors in line comply with this ruling instead.
Mark Taylor II
Sat Apr 11 2009 14:16
By the way, the professors have not been cut from their positions as of yet. The story headline and the current survey are misleading. No action has been taken to remove the professors from their positions. This is just a recommendation at this point. Please understand the facts. These professors taught us that, too.
Derrick Mcmahon
Sat Apr 11 2009 11:48
I love the journalism student's and will support you all on most things.
But this is a fight I can't get behind.
You cannot have it both ways.
You want the school off probation with full accreditation but want it to not comply with SACS?
This is a university and as a university it must comply with the way universities are to be run.
And SACS is the head honcho on matters like this.
If you don't have a masters degree or a doctorate YOU CANNOT TEACH.
Your intentions can be the best, your experience can be world renowned.
Unfortunately if you want to be a profess you gonna have to play by the rules.
FAMU has skirted around issues like this far to long which is why
We were in the situation we were in before.
I agree with a lot of movements but SACS is not the one to waste your time with.
I know the students love the professors, I know the school loves them.
But if they don't got the credentials then that's that.
It is what it is.
Grad degree programs are 36 hours.
Encourage them to do what they need to do and come back stronger than ever!
FAMU PR Grad
Sat Apr 11 2009 09:49
As a graduate of the Public Relations program at Florida A & M University, who happens to now be an educator and hold a masters degree, I whole-heartedly agree that professors should have the necessary requirements in order to educate their students. Yes, in the field of journalism and graphic communications, it is imperative that one obtains as much experience as possible in order to be marketable in the field. However, these professors have moved into the educaton sector, which means that they have to hold themselves to a different standard. They need the extra courses that a masters degree offers in order to be familiar with the best pracices in the journalism/graphic communications and education fields. In any other major, obtaining a masters is just the bare minimum needed to obtain a position as an adjunct, as professors who hold Ph.Ds usually are preferred. Why would the school of journalism and graphic communications cheat themselves from having professors who not only have the experience but the higher education as well?
Resident Evil
Sat Apr 11 2009 07:38
I agree with SACS you want a degree that holds weight not just a piece of paper. We all know that these employees are good at what the do but they have not continued their education further. It not fare to the other professors on the campus who did. There nothing that Dr. Hawkins can or should do about this we gotta let it go and do what's right for the students here at FAMU.
S.SUBER
Fri Apr 10 2009 22:26
SACS can kick rocks, just BULL I agree with Mr. Galloway 100%
brian
Fri Apr 10 2009 19:05
I agree, SACS can kick rocks. But, none of those professors identified in this article are "Peter Jennings" caliber or have achieved substantially in their field. We're not talking about Super Star hires here.
Marlon Williams
Fri Apr 10 2009 17:35
I honestly think SACS can kick rocks in regards to some of these professors. Journalism is not the same as any other field. Experience counts. We as students know that because you can earn your B.S., then go to grad school to obtain you M.S., but when you apply for a job, the person who only has a B.S., but more experience, will most likely get the job. These professors have contribute tremendously to this program. Because of their experience they have produced some of the best in the field. Not only are the professors good at what they do, but they also have a genuine interest in making FAMU students the best. If you don't believe me, as the broadcast who have taken Prof. K. Jones' and Prof. Miles' classes. I don't care what SACS says, they're hurting our program. This unfair, and SACS should reconsider. The SJGC is stepping up to higher heights, and the these professors have contributed to that stepping block.
c. judkins
Fri Apr 10 2009 15:47
being a student in this program.. i also agree that it is not a good idea for the school... i dont know what will happen from here.. can't even say anything more than that
Madkin Kelly
Fri Apr 10 2009 15:31
This ruling is not in the best interest of the Journalism program. My education at FAMU from these so-called 'unqualified' professors has made me into the business professional I am today. I know I would not be able to stand up to any of the opposition I face today if it were not for the ‘true experience’ I learned from the professors who did not carry a paper degree. It is ridiculous to judge someone based off paper especially when education is based of experience. This decision is an outrage and should be reviewed quickly. Too many graduates are better off because of what they have learned through these professors. They should be told ‘thank you for a job well done’ instead of ‘your service here isn’t wanted’.
Mark Taylor II
Fri Apr 10 2009 15:05
I am on a fence with this issue. I must note, I LOVE the education I received by professors at FAMU, so make no mistake on where my heart lies, but let's look at the reality of the situation ... most professors at other universities have much more "tenure" faculty. This is a standared in education. Just as the FAMU School of Journalism & Graphic Communication sees it fitting to require that students have a 2.5 GPA to serve in student media and other leadership positions affiliated with it's school, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools is the organization that determines standards for schools in its region. They must be adhered to, just as students have to accept sometimes harsh and unfair decisions that our professors and administrative leaders make. Student experience (i.e. internships, work, accolades) is not considered as a supplement to grade point average requirements when applying for paid (or unpaid) positions, regardless of the fact that many students use such leadership positions to pay their way through school (instead of going out to get a job that is more demanding than student media and TAKES away from study time). I also found it kind of ironic that in the print version of the paper, next to the story about PROFESSORS, a list made primarily of STUDENT accolades was shown. Why weren't the accolades of our "experienced" professors mentioned instead? It somewhat implies that students earned their accolades because of professors, and that's giving them way too much credit (I know I've personally had SOME faculty speak out against my pursuit of accolades and leadership because of their disapproval of my GPA in an industry that is proven to care more about experience and results than a GPA). My own determination and encouragement from Alumni and other professional sources often kept me driving on despite faculty comments. The bottom line is that there's a new standard, and our professors need to immediately try to meet that standard, or be removed from their positions. I just hope that SACS gives these professors enough time to meet the standard, because many of them deserve and NEED to remain at FAMU. While we may love FAMU, Let's not let our emotions cloud our rational judgement. FAMU is a business and an academic institution where "MEDIOCRITY IS NOT A STANDARD."
Aaron Galloway
Fri Apr 10 2009 14:06
This is just another instance where FAMU is in a hurry to conform to someone else's standards. SACS accreditation is important, but at the same time you have built programs that have sustained success. Why would you take an ax to these programs, which is what you would do by eliminating these 10 professors, without looking at every option available? I am in SBI and they had a similar situation in the summer of 2006 where 8 professors were let go due to "not having sufficient qualifications." These firings decimated the Professional Development aspect of SBI which is our differentiating quality. The fact that you have degrees does not make you educated, and the fact that you lack them does not make you unqualified. The programs at FAMU may not be traditional but they work, and if you have a differentiating quality then you must do everything you can to protect it. People will always say, "They aren't accredited" when talking about SBI, and they may say that, "Those teachers aren't qualified" when dealing with the SJGC, but at the end of the day companies are still at both schools on a regular basis and graduates are still getting jobs that pay more then adequately. Companies don't care about accreditation and the degrees of your professors so long as they get what they want. What they want is students who are able to complete the task at hand and then find innovative ways to make money. FAMU produces these students, maybe in a non-conventional manner, but the quality of graduates from SBI and the SJGC are second to none.
MYheartLOVESsjgc
Fri Apr 10 2009 12:49
THIS IS BULL!
A'sia Horne-Smith
Fri Apr 10 2009 12:36
In my opinion this is a terrible decision by SACS. As a recent graduate from FAMU and the School of Journalism and Graphic Communications I feel the education and work ethic that I have developed from these professors has and will continue to help me to advance in my career. It is these individuals that have helped me to become the journalist I am today. I understand the importance of a higher degree, but I feel our field is more experienced-focused. I will do whatever I can to support my professors. And to the individual who feels like they should consider graduating at a different institution I simply tell you to look at our college's track record. Look at the awards and honors our students have received in the last five years or even in the last year. Look at the positions graduates of the School of Journalism and Graphic Communications across the nation now hold. Our network is incredible. FAMU's journalism students are the cream of the crop and if you would like to leave then I'm sorry to say but you would be making a huge mistake.






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